Wright Won the Campaign for Obama

I realize this is sort of counter-intuitive, but bear with me here.

Just after PA, the sort of "CW" was that Obama would probably win NC by around 20 points and that IN was a tossup.  Somehow or another, even given this, IN was considered the key for Obama to finish off the race (for whatever reason), and he was given at least a 40-50% shot of winning it.

Well, that all changed with the second Wright flare-up.  After that, Obama's national numbers tanked, his numbers in IN and NC tanked, and Clinton seemed to be more confident than ever that she was on to something.  Essentially, Wright changed the narrative so drastically that IN looked out of reach for Obama and NC looked as if it was going to be substantially closer than the 20 points Obama supporters were originally hoping for.

And then, after all that... after all the garbage thrown at Obama in the last week regarding Wright, with Clinton at the top of her game, the results in the states basically reset to where they were originally.  It's not just the fact that he beat expectations, it's the fact that he still did as well as he did despite Wright.

It's hard to say exactly what would've happened had there not been a second Wright flare up last week.  Perhaps Obama would've pulled out IN and increased his margin in NC if Wright didn't do his press tour. But what seems fairly obvious to me right now is that if we had these same results now without the whole secondary "Wright" episode, with the "split" that talking heads were sure would cause the campaign to continue just a couple weeks ago (no matter what the margins looked like), that's basically exactly what would've happened.  The media would've looked at this and said "Looks like they split..." and moved on to the next states.  Heck, even right before the results started coming in, the talking heads on MSNBC were saying that a split would be "boring" and "status quo".  We got a split, and suddenly their eyes opened anyway.

Wright effectively wrapped up the campaign for Obama because the pastor gave Obama his worst week, Clinton her best week, and he still ended up blowing her away in NC and coming damn close to a win in IN (and a probable win without Operation Chaos).  Without this kind of expectation reset, there's no way that Russert would've said it's over, or that Hillary would've been facing calls from her own supporters to stand down now.

Would I have preferred that Wright didn't create an episode last week?  Absolutely.  But, in a truly bizarre and counter-intuitive way, Wright actually helped Obama end the destructive democratic primary.



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Re: Wright Won the Campaign for Obama (none / 0)

I agree with the thrust of your argument. As Obama's campaign has been faced with increasing challenges, it has been given opportunities to prove it can face those challenges.

Obama will run a far better GE campaign now than if Hillary had dropped out at the end of February. His team is now battle-tested and his closet now laid bare for everyone to see. The worst we can expect is a recap of the attacks that already haven't worked (well, and the usual made up stuff from the Right).


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by LandStander on Wed May 07, 2008 at 06:04:54 PM EST

Wright was a handy *diversion* from real issues (none / 0)

which Obama would have had to discuss. As it was, we still have not had the chance to get positions from Obama on a number of important, major issues leaving the voters to speculate. Obama isn't helping the matter either, as I think this was his plan all along.

How stupid we are.


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Without a REAL committment to it, we WON'T win in November.
by architek on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:41:28 AM EST
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Re: Wright Won the Campaign for Obama (none / 0)

The factor you are missing is that Clinton is holding in on an unelectable argument, and that Wright pretty clearly showed that his support would remain.


by Falsehood on Wed May 07, 2008 at 06:05:04 PM EST

AA Clinton suppoter last night said (none / 0)

The second Wright flare-up made her have more sympathy for Obama. His share of the AA vote last night was close to 100%. His share of the non-AA vote was down, though.


by catfish1 on Wed May 07, 2008 at 06:13:19 PM EST

Re: AA Clinton suppoter last night said (none / 0)

Oregon is 86% white - let's see how that state votess


by Falsehood on Wed May 07, 2008 at 06:20:23 PM EST
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Oregon is 93% white, actually (none / 0)


by Angry White Democrat on Wed May 07, 2008 at 06:28:30 PM EST
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What is up with that state? (none / 0)

The West Coast has a lot of diversity. Oregon is weird.


by catfish1 on Wed May 07, 2008 at 06:29:08 PM EST
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It used to be a mix of rednecks, poor hippies and (none / 0)

eco-folks..

I think Obama does well in the last two groups, however, I think they would be smart to consider Clinton because many of they need REAL universal healthcare, just like the rest of us.

Obama just isn't there and I don't think he will ever be.


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Without a REAL committment to it, we WON'T win in November.
by architek on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:44:40 AM EST
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Re: Oregon is 93% white, actually (none / 0)

I wasn't sure, but figured it was best to underestimate.


by Falsehood on Wed May 07, 2008 at 08:09:57 PM EST
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Re: Wright Won the Campaign for Obama (none / 0)

His share of the AA vote last night was pretty similar to what he's been getting in the last few primaries... about 90%

If I'm not mistaken, his share of white voters went up, not down.  In PA he did 37%, and in NC he did the same, while in IN he got 40%.  That's improvement.


by leshrac55 on Wed May 07, 2008 at 06:27:33 PM EST

He lost whites from PA (per CNN stats) (none / 0)

BTD's summary of CNN stats:

In Pennsylvania, Clinton won whites 18-29 (52-48), 30-44 (58-42), 45-59 (63-37), 60+ (68-32). In North Carolina, whites 18-29, just 8% of the vote, went for Obama 57-41. But whites 30-44 went for Clinton (52-45), 45-59 (64-33), 60+ (69-29).


by catfish1 on Wed May 07, 2008 at 06:30:20 PM EST
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I'm using CNN's current adjusted poll... (none / 0)

Which says that he won 37% of Whites in PA, 37% in NC, and 40% in IN.  I don't know what the specific breakdowns were, but my point still stands... he gained, not lost, whites.


by leshrac55 on Wed May 07, 2008 at 06:36:04 PM EST
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Count how many errors are in this sentence (none / 0)

"Wright actually helped Obama end the destructive democratic primary."

1.  Wright helped?

  1.  Obama ended the primary?
  2.  Destructive?

Hmmmmm ....


by Sieglinde on Wed May 07, 2008 at 06:32:34 PM EST

Re: Count how many errors are in this sentence (none / 0)

Yes, your reasoning here is infallible.  How can I dare challenge the mighty question marks and "Hmmmmm"?


by leshrac55 on Wed May 07, 2008 at 06:37:49 PM EST
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Re: Wright Won the Campaign for Obama (none / 0)

Obama was given a free ride after his speech last Tuesday. then he went on a media blitz and was not asked the obvious questions about when was he aware of these specific things Wright had been saying for years. This allowed the pro-Obama people in the talking head community to tell us how difficult it must have been for him, etc. Wright remained curiously silent after Obama's speech, decrying the insane notion that he wanted Obama to lose.


by handsomegent on Wed May 07, 2008 at 07:04:57 PM EST

Re: Wright Won the Campaign for Obama (none / 0)

Yeah, that's why Wright dominated the news last week... with more stories about him than both Obama and Clinton.

Meanwhile, in reality...


by leshrac55 on Wed May 07, 2008 at 07:07:35 PM EST
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Afetr Obama's speech on Tuesday, where did you see Wright?  He didn't respond to Obama at all. If he had done so and started a polemic I think Obama would have been seriously damaged.


by handsomegent on Wed May 07, 2008 at 07:46:41 PM EST
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Seriously?

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/ 05/06/wright-dominated-news-coverage/

Just because he wasn't talking didn't mean that the coverage wasn't absolutely brutal for Obama.

To be honest, an argument could be made that if he HAD spoken some more, it could've helped Obama because the contrast between them (particularly after the denouncement) would've just been made even clearer.

Either way, it's probably reasonable to conclude that Wright didn't do any more interviews because rather than defending himself, he ended up actually damaging himself even more.  Why would he submit himself to even more scrutiny now?


by leshrac55 on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:42:23 AM EST
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Throwing people under the bus (none / 0)

sure does help sometimes, even after having them as your moral compass for 20 years


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by DiamondJay on Wed May 07, 2008 at 07:39:58 PM EST

Re: Wright Won the Campaign for Obama (none / 0)

I agree that it showed his ability to weather a storm, and he did it well.

The real bonus was Clinton throwing him the gas tax, though; it not only let him reassert his "new politics" cred but also changed the subject at just the right time.

My guess is that Clinton saw the gas tax as a very small statement; something that was meant to deflect McCain in the general but that would go largely unnoticed in the primary. She was wrong.


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by Mandoliniment on Wed May 07, 2008 at 11:46:28 PM EST


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